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#342421 - 06/01/08 07:19 PM TN:Bevan Cellars Smackdown
Harry Cantrell Offline
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Registered: 03/02/04
Posts: 117
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The Bevan Cellar Smackdown.

Dramatis personae: One ITB, two very seasoned amateurs and one semi-rank amateur

Locale: A local Steakhouse

Scene: I recently posted a nice, but hardly effusive review of the first vintage of Bevan Cellars Cab 2005. I got an email from Russell Bevan saying that I was in a decided minority concerning the review. He proposed that I open another bottle this past weekend and he would be happy to replace it. He wanted to see if there is bottle variation that is unexpected, or my taster if just off (my interpretation of this challenge.). Of note, I have mostly Cab-based wines in my cellar, fairly equally divided between Bordeaux and Cal-mostly. So I thought that what better excuse to gather a few friends and do a blinded tasting of three similar wines and let the chips fall where they may. (I knew what the three wines were, but I absolutely kept their identification secret.) They did know that one of the three was the Bevan. As per Russell’s instructions, I decanted all three for 1 hour prior to putting them back in their bottles and hid all three with aluminum foil.

Right off the bat, upon opening, I noted 2-3 red streaks up the side of the Bevan Cellars cork and slight staining of wine on the top of the cork. Some may argue that this would potentially skew the results. The wine was delivered to All Ways Cool and shipped 2 day air in cool Spring. The wine has been kept in my active cellar at 57 degrees. (This stain was not noted on my first bottle.) I decided to go ahead with the tasting, as this is a very young wine, and even if heat damaged- (I really don’t see how.) –wouldn’t show up significantly this early in a tasting. So off I went.

The tasting results.

1- All three were very deep garnet. Number 1 has a reticent nose that took 15+ minutes to open. Initially it was licorice cab smells. Then it smoothed out with a hint of oak. Nice rich cab nose that stayed full and even opened with more air. The mouth was a rich young cab with moderate young tannins. There was a touch of hotness on the finish. Went best with the steaks and unanimous WOTN.

2- Pride oaky nose (this was Not Pride) but in a blinded tasting I would swear it was a reserve Cab based on nose alone. Tannins and more tannins initially in the mouth. There was also a very subtle VA on the nose that blew off. Nose of coffee, black fruits. Taste opened over time, tannins mellowed out and the cab primary flavors came through. WAAY too young, but good with the food. Second place tonight. Of note, one of the experienced tasters suggested this was the Bevan as the impression is of a new vineyard where the winemakers tried to go right to the edge, and then with further vintages will learn to pull it back a hair as they get comfortable with the vineyard’s abilities. (Very astute comment, IMO.)

3- The nose was full of tar, and “squealed tires” Perhaps over charred barrels, but time will tell. An initial smell that reminded of a good Pauillac quickly changed to the tar. Then to some cab, then tar. Back and forth like a tennis match. Tannins galore in the mouth. I couldn’t help but note a touch of thinness in the midpalate. Only after two hours did I get a hint of sweetness. Third out of three tonight. (on a side note, this went best with the chocolate gelato with chocolate sauce.)

The ranking of all 4 tasters were the same, 1 was first; 2 was second and 3 was third. Also of note all three were the most recent releases of their various vineyards and all three were from Oakville.

The winner tonight-#1 was the 2004 Matriarch Scored 94-93

Second place was 2005 Futo. (see the comment made under the review, even though technically it is the second vintage.) Scored 92-89

Third was the 2005 Bevan Cellar. Scored 90-87
(the ranges were from the various tasters.)

So, concluding, perhaps the Bevan variation is the cork. But, so far, my tastings have been consistent.
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#342426 - 06/02/08 06:44 AM Re: TN:Bevan Cellars Smackdown [Re: Harry Cantrell]
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I never heard of Futo.

Matriarch is Harlan/Bond right? What are the prices on these? Were they comparable in that regard?

Fo
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#342444 - 06/02/08 04:05 PM Re: TN:Bevan Cellars Smackdown [Re: Harry Cantrell]
Harry Cantrell Offline
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Loc: NJ, USA
'FO. Yes, Matriarch is the 'second' wine of Bond. $85
Futo is the new project with Abreu as vineyard manager and Aubert as wine maker $200
Bevan was $150
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#342453 - 06/02/08 07:51 PM Re: TN:Bevan Cellars Smackdown [Re: JFO]
Mel Hill Offline
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Registered: 12/21/00
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 Originally Posted By: JFO
I never heard of Futo.

Fo


the vineyard used to be know as the Oakford Estate Vineyard.
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#342459 - 06/02/08 09:39 PM Re: TN:Bevan Cellars Smackdown [Re: Harry Cantrell]
Russell Bevan Offline
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Registered: 03/19/04
Posts: 81
Loc: Sonoma Mountain
Dear Harry,

Thank you for taking the time to re taste our Cabernet Sauvignon. When I read your post I was surprised that you thought my offer was in any way in any way challenge to your palate, I didn’t mean it to be. Your tasting note just didn’t read like I would expect it to after tasting the wine as many times as I have. If you took any offense I apologize. I will send you an email regarding credit or replacement as I don’t want anyone who has purchased our wines to be less than enthusiastic about opening their second or third bottle and I’m not sure you would be.

As to heat or cork problems, you are right, virtually every bottle has two little lines of wine on the side of them and it has nothing to do with heat or storage conditions. I wanted to give the bottles a high fill level and we used long corks which did push a little wine out, in some bottles it is more noticeable than others.

I’m not surprised that the Matriarch showed so well next to the ‘05’s. The ’05 wines have not been in bottle for a year yet and are still getting over a little bottle shock; the wines should gain weight over the coming year. I have also found the 2004 vintage to be much more forward and seductive.

I have told everyone who has asked to wait until this winter before opening the wine or to double decant it for most of a day as the wine usually shows better with significant air time as it is so young.

Thank you again for taking the time to try the wine, please call with any questions or concerns 707 332 2918.

All the best,

Russell Bevan

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#342461 - 06/03/08 05:35 AM Re: TN:Bevan Cellars Smackdown [Re: Harry Cantrell]
Bryan Briscoe Offline
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Registered: 02/07/04
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$150.00 and $200.00 for first vintages???? Impressive

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#342463 - 06/03/08 05:49 AM Re: TN:Bevan Cellars Smackdown [Re: Mel Hill]
JFO Offline
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Too close to Futrent if you ask me. I think I may have to sue for tradename infringement.
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#342464 - 06/03/08 06:15 AM Re: TN:Bevan Cellars Smackdown [Re: Bryan Briscoe]
Matthew Hejna Offline
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They must come with a free hat.
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#342465 - 06/03/08 06:36 AM Wow... [Re: Russell Bevan]
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 Originally Posted By: Russell Bevan
.... regarding credit or replacement ... I don’t want anyone who has purchased our wines to be less than enthusiastic about opening their second or third bottle and I’m not sure you would be.

As to heat or cork problems, you are right, virtually every bottle has two little lines of wine on the side of them and it has nothing to do with heat or storage conditions. I wanted to give the bottles a high fill level and we used long corks which did push a little wine out, in some bottles it is more noticeable than others.

I’m not surprised that the Matriarch showed so well next to the ‘05’s. The ’05 wines have not been in bottle for a year yet and are still getting over a little bottle shock; the wines should gain weight over the coming year. I have also found the 2004 vintage to be much more forward and seductive.

I have told everyone who has asked to wait until this winter before opening the wine or to double decant it for most of a day as the wine usually shows better with significant air time as it is so young.

All the best,

Russell Bevan


....that's some seriously good customer service. Well done, Russell. Thanks also for taking the time to explain your insight into the wine and it's developmental curve.

All the best,

BEB
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#342548 - 06/05/08 07:16 AM Thread drift - Futo [Re: JFO]
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 Originally Posted By: JFO
I never heard of Futo.

Here's a link to an article that might help.
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#342560 - 06/05/08 08:21 AM Re: Thread drift - Futo [Re: BEB]
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Originally Posted By: BEB
Originally Posted By: JFO
I never heard of Futo.

Here's a link to an article that might help.


Thanks, but at $200 it would have to do some pretty amazing things to get me interested.
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#342576 - 06/05/08 08:08 PM Re: Thread drift - Futo [Re: JFO]
Russell Bevan Offline
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Posts: 81
Loc: Sonoma Mountain
Dear Beb,

Here is James Laube's review, he gave the wine 93pts.

Aromas of ripe black cherry, plum and raspberry are pure, rich and concentrated, and this is mouthcoating, intense and persistent. Shows a trace of heat, but the tannins are firm and integrated, boding well for short-term cellaring. Best from 2010 through 2016. 125 cases made. –JL

Your friend,
Russell

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